-----------------------Short upgrades for moral-------------

[Michel]

It is definitive right that you cant make celebrations or dances in KoH for the citizen? Dances like derwisch dance or folke for moral or for the popularity scale.
At least such upgrads how in Caesar III that people are happier. In the german forum some suggest are also tjosts.

Is there a alcaholic modus for soldiers? You make these upgrade and they go so 10% slowier but they know no fear yet. Or upgrade for which named ' desire of revenge'. So happens that the soldier attacks 5 % faster per dead own soldier. Such upgrads with only a short effect for moral and fightpower. These will bring more tension in the game and you cant know who wins in the battle before. Then the fight isnt so calculable. 3-4 such options and the fight will be ideal.

Im glad that there are now more units in the game although they arent historical correct.
And is it sure that there will be no fireweapons in the game or at least explosiv missiles, because there are some units which had been only in the 14th century like janitscharen.

So, thank you. I want to have a


:cheers: modus.:)

[Haegemon]

1.It was long discussed and we were told: no tourneys, no jousts, no parties.

2.There is a moral bar, but nothing about 'alcoholic modus'; the moral depends of experience and amount of men loses in battle.

3. No firepower It's sure. That was also discussed and devs told us, that using firepower changes the kind of war, and let it go far enought to defocus the main slogan which is about knighthood and chivalry.

[Elewyn]

Im glad that there are now more units in the game although they arent historical correct.
And is it sure that there will be no fireweapons in the game or at least explosiv missiles, because there are some units which had been only in the 14th century like janitscharen.
Not eight at all. Janissaries used bows too in early times of Ottoman expansion.

And as Heagemon said. No gunppowder in KoH because it significantly changed warfare from chivalric medieval to early new age bloodbath

[Henrik]

If KoH sells bigtime, then i'm sure we'll see some turneys + additional features in the next release....

[Gorgoroth]

Hmmm..showy post subject. :D

[Bora]

the last words of in case of tounrments and celebrations is not spoken!
remember, i have a vote for it,... and when you take part as in the HREvs germany vote (also really important!) then we have a better chance to have that feature in. :)

[Drake Maethor]

Originally posted by Elewyn
Not eight at all. Janissaries used bows too in early times of Ottoman expansion.

And as Heagemon said. No gunppowder in KoH because it significantly changed warfare from chivalric medieval to early new age bloodbath

hahaha, yeah, of course there weren't bloodbaths in the Middle Ages...
It was a lovely period to live in! Oh, the romantic Middle Ages with the maidens and their chivalrious knights! Why did we abandon thee?!
:D
But I remember it quite well...
No invasions, no barbarians, no rapes, no sacking, no tortures, of course no psycollogical warfare (nothing like throwing human heads to demoralize the enemy) or biollogical warfare (nobody in those times would try anything to spread disease among the enemy popuplation like throwing deseased cows or whatever!).
It was only gallant knights engaged in one to one combat! Oh a beautiful sight!
And the crusades were just like the World Football Cup. West vs East would play a soccer match and that was all. Instead of a cup the winner would win Jerusalem for four years and of course shake hands with the loser! Even sometimes they would cut the loser's hand just to not miss them to much after they left. And of course in a few years they would play again! :D

And then gunpowder came and changed everything...
:mad: bad bad gunpowder! :mad:

And then bloodbath came.... :( ;(

:D :D :D :D

[Drake Maethor]

Originally posted by Haegemon
...defocus the main slogan which is about knighthood and chivalry.

Yep, only knighthood and chivalry in this game!
You won't find nothing like traitors.
Only chivalrous knigths willing to give you their daughters into marriage so that after you die they can take care of your kingdom. Kind hearts that even will send you an assasin to warm you in your final hour. :D

[Drake Maethor]

Come on guys, the Middle Ages was full, as this game will be, of intrigues, bloodbaths, sacking, wars, pillaging, spionage, assasinations, church corruption, etc.
That there isn't gundpowder that doens't mean that we won't have all this in the game...
So why saying that we only will find chivarly and knighthood here?
After all, bloodbaths is all we want!
:D

[Elewyn]

Originally posted by Drake Maethor
hahaha, yeah, of course there weren't bloodbaths in the Middle Ages...
It was a lovely period to live in! Oh, the romantic Middle Ages with the maidens and their chivalrious knights! Why did we abandon thee?!
:D
But I remember it quite well...
No invasions, no barbarians, no rapes, no sacking, no tortures, of course no psycollogical warfare (nothing like throwing human heads to demoralize the enemy) or biollogical warfare (nobody in those times would try anything to spread disease among the enemy popuplation like throwing deseased cows or whatever!).
It was only gallant knights engaged in one to one combat! Oh a beautiful sight!
And the crusades were just like the World Football Cup. West vs East would play a soccer match and that was all. Instead of a cup the winner would win Jerusalem for four years and of course shake hands with the loser! Even sometimes they would cut the loser's hand just to not miss them to much after they left. And of course in a few years they would play again! :D

And then gunpowder came and changed everything...
:mad: bad bad gunpowder! :mad:

And then bloodbath came.... :( ;(

:D :D :D :D It was not bloodbath like after gunpowder came.
Yes, epideimes, hunger, powerfull lords and poor peasants with nobody to protect them. When a war came, for normal people it usually WAS bloodbath, because of having no or very weak armour, but when the cores of armies-knights' cavalry met, not a great number of them died!
War of nobles had it's rules. I already gave an example from Georges Duby's book "La Dimanche de Bouvines", where he describes high medieval warfare.

Do you know why Frech knights were so many times defeated in 100years war? They weren't familiar with new style of war. They knew a war where masses of peasants were just background and decisive part of army were knights who were able to beat most of them-having far better armour which almost no weapons were able to break. And decisive part of a battle was when knights met. But they didn't killed each other(they were nobles, if their deal in a battle was killing as many enemy knights, there will be no male nobles around 1100 A.D. When a knight defeated other knight, he took him as "prisoner" and asks his family for ransom. Death of a knight was accident, not a purpouse of war between 1000 and in around 1350. Speaking about wars christians vs. christians, not aggainst non-believers.
Those knights were shocked when Flemish municipal armies met with them without cavalry and their goal was to dismount knights and beat them in mud under horses' legs.
The same shock for them was when bodkin arrows started to be able to break their armour. And gunpowder was the last step.

Medieval war was blodbath for backbones of armies probably, but we don't know how much because simply nobody mentioned them in chronicles. Rapeing, plundering, yes, it was obvious way how to weaken enemy, but not by killing people (only those who tried to resist and "ran aggainst mounted iron wall" were killed), just caused hunger and hunger then did it instead of their weapons.
But I'm not saying it was not cruel time.