No memory of kept promises

[Lighthope]

One thing I noticed was that England offers me York to attack Ireland (just to use examples). I agree. I get York. Then, I just turn around and make peace with Ireland. I get to keep York, I'm not at war with Ireland, and England doesn't seem to be none the wiser.

Did I miss something? Or do nations have no memory of promises made?

Lighthope

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[stainless]

nice twist :)
maybe england did not get to war with you, but your relationship dropped?
i will try it myself, if someone makes me such an offer of course :)

[Arcador]

Once I had a message "We are YYY. XXX country has made us attack you" . And after that I made an alliance with the YYY country. Nothing changed. Except maybe the Kindom power points which are very important. Some fast diplomacy changes may alter the ods in your favor for a litte, but the risk to lose important points is not small.
But they said - diplomacy is the better way to win :) In the upper case , Lighthope took in mind all the sides and it ended with everyone happy. Maybe it was better for Irealand to stay with one enemy less...anyway sometimes I don't get the AI too :)

[Henrik]

I also think we'll have to remember tat it is only a game programmed by humans - i.e. we can't expect them to have programmed a logic for every possible senario in terms of deplomatic situations.

however i think that it's nice that you post your findings of things you think is odd, because this way the devs can make a patch, so the AI can handle the deplomacy even bette.

[Lighthope]

however i think that it's nice that you post your findings of things you think is odd, because this way the devs can make a patch, so the AI can handle the deplomacy even bette.

That's exactly why I posted it. The developers here seem to be incredibly responsive. I expect big things when the enevitable patch comes out. (Enevitable because no matter how hard you try, there are always bugs and also because I'm sure there are more improvments developers will think of "after the fact".)

Lighthope

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[Frujin]

The AI remebers everything. EVERYTHING :) In that specific case it worked that way rather by exeption.

Of course, if needed (and as someone said - it is always needed) we can improve the balance of the game and improve this or that.

[sas]

one scenario:
I'm allied with poland
I have a trade route going (making 120 gold slick :p)
we have a royal wedding
relations are harmonious
I actually went to war with several other countries for them

and still they accept bribes to attack me and then they close the trade route(which is most important to me)

so all agreements are broken..

then, I just get an audition and ask for peace, alliance, trade route and they are more than willing to accept it straight away!

what's up with that? :p

[Arcador]

Maybe Poland decided it will be better for them to ally you, especially if they were Made to attack you *and have nothing personal agains your kindom*. Remembering bad deeds does not always mean decline to every offer.

[NoC Lord Fire]

one scenario:
I'm allied with poland
I have a trade route going (making 120 gold slick :p)
we have a royal wedding
relations are harmonious
I actually went to war with several other countries for them

and still they accept bribes to attack me and then they close the trade route(which is most important to me)

so all agreements are broken..

then, I just get an audition and ask for peace, alliance, trade route and they are more than willing to accept it straight away!

what's up with that? :p

They are bad in nature. For example, I had royal weding with theutonic order. After some time i even forgot that and denmark offered me land to attack theutonic order. So I did. My relation with Denmark became frendly and imediately i have tryed to make trade pakt with them but the answer was NO and they said: we have herad from king(theutonic o.) how you have played them and betrayed them (somthing like that). So AI is also rotten :D