Anybody seen AI kingdom...?

[Elvain]

Hi, here are several questions of some actions or so which players can use, but I hardly saw them done by the AI, or if, so very rarely:

1) AI won the game? If you remember, please, write down, how many times have you lost?
2) AI kingdom with more than 20 provinces?
3) You were defeated after you had over 6 provinces
4) AI using spy action against another AI kingdom - to me this happened visibly once.
5) AI claiming the title of emperor
6) AI completing merchant guild
7) AI completing cathedral or grand mosque
8) AI completing university
9) AI using siege equipment (not when using Laudan's mod)
10) rebels conquered YOUR province and new kingdom emerged. In this case I don't mean when rebels in AI kingdom conquered province from AI, new kingdom emerged and you lost some provinces to it
11) by crusades you were forced to give up some provinces
12) Also I would like to know how many times have you lost a province by Ai conquest
a) slightly ever (less than in 10% of your games)
b) rarely (less 50% of your games)
c) from time to time (less than once per game)
d) often (once to twice per game)
e) very often (more than twice per game)
13) AI was elected Emperor of Europe
14) You were forced to lose a war with AI
15) AI built admirality - if, so how often
16) AI importing exotic goods

if anybody has any idea, tell me and I will add it to the list.
I hope this will help developers if doing the next patch (if, hopefully, after N.American release) or modders....

PS: answer by filling in this form:
1- player defeat)
2-AI over 20provinces)
3-6province defeat)
4-AI vs.AI spy action)
5-AI claim)
6-AI merchant guild)
7-AI cathedral)
8-AI university)
9-AI siege equip)
10-victorious rebels)
11-crusaders got your province)
12-AI conquest)
a) slightly ever (less than in 10% of your games)
b) rarely (less 50% of your games)
c) from time to time (less than once per game)
d) often (once to twice per game)
e) very often (more than twice per game)
13-AI elected)
14-lost war with AI)
15-AI admirality)
16-AI importing)

[Elvain]

1- player defeat) Well I was defeated about 2-3 times. Everytime when starting as 2 realm kingdom and been at war with mighty neighbour. In neither of cases game lasted over an hour
2-Ai over 20provinces) Once. In my mod, HolyRomanEmpire (starting with 18 provinces) lost over 10 provs, but then annexed Hungary and had 22 provinces.
3-6province defeat) Never
4-AI vs.AI spy action) Once. HRE annexed Hungary. HRE's spy probably got elected as king of Hungary after Hungarian king died
5-AI claim) Never
6-AI merchant guild) Never
7-AI cathedral) Once, in my last game (using combination of my and Angryminer's mod)
8-AI university) Never
9-AI siege equip) Never
10-victorious rebels) about 3-5 times (if not counting about 3 cases when I wanted them to take it and didn't do anytrhing to stop them), only once without Angryminer's mod
11-crusaders got your province) On my territory, I met not more than 5 crusaders, some of them more than once (over 20 crusades was called against me in total of about 30 games), only 2-3 battles I've lost, they never attacked my town
12-AI conquest)
a) slightly ever (less than in 10% of your games) - with patch
b) rarely (less 50% of your games) - with Angryminer's Glory of God mod
c) from time to time (less than once per game) - combination of my and Angryminer's mod
13-AI elected) Yes, once this happened. I refused, all major powers were at war with me. With 4 I signed white peace very soon, one war I've lost (some money) and 2 wars were victorious for me
14-lost war with AI) Not more than 5 times in about 30 games
15-AI admirality) yes, in later stages of games AI builds admiralities in 2/3 of coastal provinces(using Glory of God, not sure it it happened with patch)
16-AI importing) Never

[Anguille2]

Well, i am a slow player and i still haven't found out how to change speed on my laptop (i don't really mind as the normal speed is fine for me). So i am currently at my second game
(first was Scotland and now Switzerland) and i've played now for 3 months :scratch:

So far:
1. none
2. I don't think so (mostly around 17-19 for the biggest ones)
3. No defeat so far.
4. I've seen it a couple of times.
5. no
6. not that i am aware of.
7. not that i am aware of.
8. I've seen it at least 3 times. Mostly with ballistas.
9. no
10. i don't think so.
11. No.
12. About 3 times...so d. (Almost none on normal...mostly on hard, current game)
13. not yet.
14. In my current game i had to ask for peace from Algeira. I think i had a new king, some of my Marshalls became rebels, and at least 3 armies of Algeiria were attacking me and had already taken one province. He didn't exploit that though and accepted a white peace...but i was really in a bad situation and was about to lose my spanish territories.

[Angryminer]

1- player defeat
Never.
2-AI over 20provinces
I can only remember one game. Byzantia was the kingdom.
3-6province defeat
Never.
4-AI vs.AI spy action
I saw this when I was currently observing the recruiting-behaviour of the AI with "bsswitch". The king called for a spy, sent him to his enemy and made him start rebellions until the spy was captured :go: .
5-AI claim
Never.
6-AI merchant guild
Several times (never without GoG1.5)
7-AI cathedral
Several times (never without GoG1.5)
8-AI university
I don't think so.
9-AI siege equip
Several times (extremely seldomly without modifications, with mods more often)
10-victorious rebels
Never.
11-crusaders got your province
I never actually played a muslim kingdom.
12-AI conquest
d) often (once to twice per game) (never without mods)
13-AI elected
Never.
14-lost war with AI
Once per game I give away some money to have my people rest at peace...
15-AI admirality
I had a game with over 3 AI-admiralities. But none without mods.
16-AI importing
Never. Not even with mods. Not even when importing was for free.

Angryminer

[Xuca]

1.Once
2.Once, but l'm not sure, because l didnt counted
3.No
4.Уes, l've seen few times numeros rebels in one kingdom
5.Never
6.Not sure
7.Not sure
8.Not sure
9.No
10.No
11.A crusade was never called on me,but l played with a muslim kingdom only once
12.b.l always have trops guarding my towns, and speed ability for my marshals
13.Once.l was losing a spy war and AI got elected.l refused,and got conquered(that is the only time l got defeted
14.Rearly
15.Not sure
16.No

[Laudan]

1- player defeat) no,not yet,never played finished
2-AI over 20provinces) yes the record is 28 ,normaly 18 !!
3-6province defeat) yes
4-AI vs.AI spy action) yes
5-AI claim)
6-AI merchant guild)
7-AI cathedral)
8-AI university)
9-AI siege equip) jes,everytime comes with catapults,trebuchets(ballistas less),if the realm strong
10-victorious rebels) yes
11-crusaders got your province) no
12-AI conquest) yes
a) slightly ever (less than in 10% of your games)
b) rarely (less 50% of your games)
c) from time to time (less than once per game)
d) often (once to twice per game)
e) very often (more than twice per game)
13-AI elected) not yet,must play longer
14-lost war with AI) yes
15-AI admirality) yes
16-AI importing)yes
this based only with the mod hard finalversion!!

[Kakita Matesu]

1- player defeat) Never
2-AI over 20provinces) Not sure but probably never, except starting conditions
3-6province defeat) Never
4-AI vs.AI spy action) Sometimes but rather often
5-AI claim) Never
6-AI merchant guild) Not sure, rather rarely
7-AI cathedral) Never
8-AI university) Once
9-AI siege equip) Rarely
10-victorious rebels) Never
11-crusaders got your province) Never
12-AI conquest)
a) slightly ever (less than in 10% of your games) Probably once or never
13-AI elected) Never
14-lost war with AI) Never
15-AI admirality) Once
16-AI importing) Never

All answers are based on my first game as Poland with patch

[Elvain]

thanks to you all. I hope other players will join and post their experience too....

PS: crusades can be called against any kingdom exceppt normal catholic. When I played as Lithuania (pagan in 1200), there was about 15 crusades against me (I was at war with Papacy and had bad relations with country where the pope came from). Also I have many times seen crusades against Trebizond (maybe also some other orthodox nation, but most of them against Trebizond)
but never yet seen a crusade against excomunicated catholics

[Master King]

Just some questions
Has any AI ever used Cauldron against you in Battleview? :confused:
And do anyone of you know the extend of damage it does against the attackting force?

[Elvain]

Yes, I've seen it used once (only once from about 3 battles where AI had cauldrons, but didn't use them)

Unfortunately I don't remember how it looks, but half of my squad of Roman infantry was killed

[hawk_knight]

1. not yet :cool:
2. 3 times i had on all three times something like 30 provinces under my control
3. never
1- player defeat) 2 times i have lost
2-AI over 20provinces) 3 times i had on all three times something like 30 provinces under my control
3-6province defeat) never
4-AI vs.AI spy action) 3 times
5-AI claim) 5 times
6-AI merchant guild) never
7-AI cathedral) never
8-AI university) never
9-AI siege equip) once
10-victorious rebels) never
11-crusaders got your province) never
12-AI conquest)
a) slightly ever (less than in 10% of your games) maybe once
13-AI elected) one time
14-lost war with AI) never
15-AI admirality) 5 times
16-AI importing) never

[the knightly sword]

1.player defeat.
only once testing playing as austria declareing war on the rest of the world , but in real action never.


2.ai 20 provinces.
happend twice with germeny.

3.defeat 6 provinces.
never.

4. espionage ai vs ai ive seen it often.
ive seen it often.

5.emporer of europe claim never.
never.


6.ai merchant guild
no.

7.ai cathedral
no.

8.ai university
no.

9.ai siege equipment
no but ive seen them build siege equipment workshops.

10.victorius rebels
never in my kingdoms but ive encounterd famous rebels invadeing my lands who seem to be victorius in there former plundering territory.


11.crusaders conquering your provinces
never.

12.ai conquering your provinces
a.sightly ever


13. ai elected
one canidate had a very good chance to get elected . but well lets say i eliminated him afterwards :smile: .



14. ai forceing you too to loose a war
no its rather the oppisit , after i got what i want or longer think its fun , i force them either by makeing them pay a tribute or forceing them into being my vassal.but sometimes when the relation with negibhour kingdoms are at the edge i stop the war .


15.ai admirality
no never.

16.ai importing
no.