Hell Knight
24-08-2005, 10:39
Hello,
Im just curious if all of you think the espionage part of this game is out of balanced, overpowered and ridiculously easy? Ok let me tell you how I really feel! :lol:
If you are developing a Marshall, you have to hire an army and then you have to actually fight battles to get better.
If you are cleric you have to train the cleric to be any good and use up about 4,000 books. To use the adopt skill it uses 1,000 books and the convert skill uses 14K+ and 1,000 piety.
If you are developing a Spy, for a mere 4,000 books you can just about infiltrate any kingdom and be successful on just about any mission you send him on. I've only sent out level 4 spys and sometimes the first try they fail but they always keep thier identity hidden for another try which usually works the second time. In order to do this all it costs you is time to build up for another try.
It seems to me that spy atttempts should cost books and or cash especially for the many options you have to wreak absolute chaos in another kingdom for what really amounts to a disposable character especially middle to late in the game when you have lots of cash and books being written.
I know this my wish list but I think a spy should have to be double trained in order to keep his cover. In other words he should not only have to be trained as a spy but he should have to be trained up as a cleric, or a merchant, or landlord, etc. and the only default category would be a marshal.
In addition, I think it is very unrealistic to have a foreigner be accepted into a foreign court and be able to ascend to a top position in that society, especially when nationality and family loyalty was so important? It seems to me that if your spy ever did get a position like that it should be VERY rare. Because right now its ajoke you can infiltrate any kingdom at any time. There should be a minimum of like 5 to 10 years in game time before you can use a spy.
Finally, I think a spy shouldn't even be used to get to a top position but rather you would have to use his skills to "turn" a member of the foreign court and have that person be your spy. Then in order to get results from that spy you have to pay large amounts of money and train him as well. Only then should you be able to get some of the rather INSANE benefits of a spy that you can easily get now.
Well thats my two cents. What do you think is spying to easy?
Hellknight
Im just curious if all of you think the espionage part of this game is out of balanced, overpowered and ridiculously easy? Ok let me tell you how I really feel! :lol:
If you are developing a Marshall, you have to hire an army and then you have to actually fight battles to get better.
If you are cleric you have to train the cleric to be any good and use up about 4,000 books. To use the adopt skill it uses 1,000 books and the convert skill uses 14K+ and 1,000 piety.
If you are developing a Spy, for a mere 4,000 books you can just about infiltrate any kingdom and be successful on just about any mission you send him on. I've only sent out level 4 spys and sometimes the first try they fail but they always keep thier identity hidden for another try which usually works the second time. In order to do this all it costs you is time to build up for another try.
It seems to me that spy atttempts should cost books and or cash especially for the many options you have to wreak absolute chaos in another kingdom for what really amounts to a disposable character especially middle to late in the game when you have lots of cash and books being written.
I know this my wish list but I think a spy should have to be double trained in order to keep his cover. In other words he should not only have to be trained as a spy but he should have to be trained up as a cleric, or a merchant, or landlord, etc. and the only default category would be a marshal.
In addition, I think it is very unrealistic to have a foreigner be accepted into a foreign court and be able to ascend to a top position in that society, especially when nationality and family loyalty was so important? It seems to me that if your spy ever did get a position like that it should be VERY rare. Because right now its ajoke you can infiltrate any kingdom at any time. There should be a minimum of like 5 to 10 years in game time before you can use a spy.
Finally, I think a spy shouldn't even be used to get to a top position but rather you would have to use his skills to "turn" a member of the foreign court and have that person be your spy. Then in order to get results from that spy you have to pay large amounts of money and train him as well. Only then should you be able to get some of the rather INSANE benefits of a spy that you can easily get now.
Well thats my two cents. What do you think is spying to easy?
Hellknight