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weaz
04-12-2005, 13:13
I was wondering where I could find a list with the kingdom specific units? Does it exist and otherwise, would it be handy to make such a list. I think it's important to know which special units you can make. Because I prefer a country with as special units: crossbowman and men-at-arms than axemen and slavonic archers for example.

question for experienced players: when you play 'Late' Burgundy e.g... do you have the same specific units than Burgundy 'Early' age ?
So here might appear a long list with all the nations/ specific units.

Elvain
04-12-2005, 13:30
you can see it in Train units.xls(maps/europe/map)

PS: you've stolen my avatar!!!

weaz
04-12-2005, 14:01
ow sry elvain :) I will change it now. I didn't know , just picked a cool face out of the avatars , didn't saw it looked like yours :p

Elvain
04-12-2005, 14:41
Wales - Longbowmen
Scotland, Lothian, Highlands - Highlander
France, Athens, Burgundy, Latins, Lotharingia, Provence, Solun - Men-at-arms, Feudal knights
Naples, Savoy, Sicily(arabic) - Feudal knights, Crossbowmen
Italy, Lombardy, Genoa, Venice - Feudal knights, Crossbowmen, Heavy Crossbowmen
Germany, Austria, Gelre, Mecklemburg, Pomerania - Heavy Swordsmen, Heavy Archers, Feudal knights
Trebizond, Antioch, Epir, - Pronoi, Roman Infantry
Byzantia, Nicaea - Pronoi, Roman infantry, Cataphracts
Algeries, Morocco, - Destert archers, Desert Spearmen, Saracens, Desert archers
Abbasids, Almohads, Bagdad, Cordoba, Fatimids, Granada, Ilkhanids - Destert archers, Desert Spearmen, Saracens, Desert archers, Mameluks
Turnovo, Bdin, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Dobrudzha, Serbia - Pronoi
Switzerland - Halberdier
Novgorod, Muscovy, Ryazan, Moldavia - Boyar
Sweden, Denmark, Norway - Axemen, Vikings
Ireland, Leinster, Munster, Ulster, Brittany - Hobilars
Lithuania - Swordsmen, light cavalry
Bohemia - men-at-arms, Light cavalry
Poland - Slavonic Axemen, Slavonic bowmen
England - Man-at-arms
Hungary - Horse archers, men-at-arms
Berbers - Desert Archers, Desert spearmen, Camel Riders
Leon, Navarra, Pamplona, Portugal - Light Cavalry, Crossbowmen, Jinetes
Castilia, Aragon - Jinetes, Crossbowmen, Feudal knights
Teutonic Order - Teutonic knights, Feudal knights, Crossbowmen
Ottomans - Ghulam Cavalry, Akyndji, Spahias, Janissaries
Seljuks, Karaman - Akyndji, Spahias
Khazars, Pechnegs, Cumans, Kazan - Steppe cavalry
Armenia, Georgia - Pronoi, Horse Archer
Golden Horde - Mongols, Steppe Cavalry
Croatia - man-at-arms
Cyprus - man-at-arms
Sicily(1200) - Feudal knights, Crossbowmen, Axemen, Normans
Normandy - Normans, light cavalry, axemen


ow sry elvain :) I will change it now. I didn't know , just picked a cool face out of the avatars , didn't saw it looked like yours :p
don't need to apologise :wink:

Winrich von Kniprode
04-12-2005, 15:34
Then again, the lack of historical accuracy in kingdom units is awful. Heavy Archer and Swordsmen should be spreaded all across the europe since and not just in particular locations.

Templars should also be present in the Iberian Peninsula but more specificly in Portugal since this country holded one of the Templar's main bases and was the last bastion of the Templar Order when Europe decided to start the purge against the Templars. Kind Dinis, from Portugal, respected the Templars so much, that he decided to save them trough a cunning strategy: by gathering the remnant portuguese Templars, king Dinis presented the pope a proposition to form his own religious order of knights: the Christ's Order. The pope accepted not suspecting that Christ's Order was, in fact, the portuguese Templars under a new name.

King Dinis made a wise decision since the Christ's Order later bringed Portugal lots of advantages. It was the Christ's Order masters who first came with the ultramarine expansion idea, since Portugal was a small country, and the knowledge of the Templars was indeed the main factor that influenced this new age of discoveries for Portugal.

weaz
04-12-2005, 16:23
Wales - Longbowmen
Scotland, Lothian, Highlands - Highlander
France, Athens, Burgundy, Latins, Lotharingia, Provence, Solun - Men-at-arms, Feudal knights
Naples, Savoy, Sicily(arabic) - Feudal knights, Crossbowmen
Italy, Lombardy, Genoa, Venice - Feudal knights, Crossbowmen, Heavy Crossbowmen
Germany, Austria, Gelre, Mecklemburg, Pomerania - Heavy Swordsmen, Heavy Archers, Feudal knights
Trebizond, Antioch, Epir, - Pronoi, Roman Infantry
Byzantia, Nicaea - Pronoi, Roman infantry, Cataphracts
Algeries, Morocco, - Destert archers, Desert Spearmen, Saracens, Desert archers
Abbasids, Almohads, Bagdad, Cordoba, Fatimids, Granada, Ilkhanids - Destert archers, Desert Spearmen, Saracens, Desert archers, Mameluks
Turnovo, Bdin, Bosnia, Bulgaria, Dobrudzha, Serbia - Pronoi
Switzerland - Halberdier
Novgorod, Muscovy, Ryazan, Moldavia - Boyar
Sweden, Denmark, Norway - Axemen, Vikings
Ireland, Leinster, Munster, Ulster, Brittany - Hobilars
Lithuania - Swordsmen, light cavalry
Bohemia - men-at-arms, Light cavalry
Poland - Slavonic Axemen, Slavonic bowmen
England - Man-at-arms
Hungary - Horse archers, men-at-arms
Berbers - Desert Archers, Desert spearmen, Camel Riders
Leon, Navarra, Pamplona, Portugal - Light Cavalry, Crossbowmen, Jinetes
Castilia, Aragon - Jinetes, Crossbowmen, Feudal knights
Teutonic Order - Teutonic knights, Feudal knights, Crossbowmen
Ottomans - Ghulam Cavalry, Akyndji, Spahias, Janissaries
Seljuks, Karaman - Akyndji, Spahias
Khazars, Pechnegs, Cumans, Kazan - Steppe cavalry
Armenia, Georgia - Pronoi, Horse Archer
Golden Horde - Mongols, Steppe Cavalry
Croatia - man-at-arms
Cyprus - man-at-arms
Sicily(1200) - Feudal knights, Crossbowmen, Axemen, Normans
Normandy - Normans, light cavalry, axemen



don't need to apologise :wink:

Is that KOH or your mod, elvain ?

Elvain
04-12-2005, 16:40
it is taken from my mod, but I tried to describe it as it was in the original game.

In Holy Rome Bohemia has heavy crossbowmen, Jerusalem has templars nad Hospitaliers and Crusader cavalry+crossbowmen, Latins and Antioch have crusader infantry, Lithuania has Baltic cavalry, Armenia and Georgia have also cataphracts etc.

@Winrich - what is described here are "kingdom special units", So the kingdom can buy them in every province.
There are also regional units (peasants, swordsmen, m-a-a) and province units (templars, feudal kinghts) which are available only in certain provinces

Templars surely are available in Iberian peninsula, but I'm not sure about Portugal.

King Karl
20-12-2005, 14:26
Kingdom units in Jerusalem are realy bad... It's bad to be Jerusalem :biggrin: